All posts by Gman18

Well your “details” are not proven sufficient enough. And I already debunked them and proved your wrong countless times now.

For all we know, Cereza could have worked on Cheshire which is why it looks different. Of course the game isn’t out yet, so we can’t confirm that. However, Cereza clearly looks a bit older in Bayonetta Origins than she did in Bayo 1. So it’s not like she is same age as she was since she left Bayo 1’s universe. She clearly looks a bit older. And “Wanda stan”? Seriously, I have no idea what that has to do with your retort and my argument cuz that’s new to me. Personally, it sounds like you’re using that as an excuse to make me look stupid even though you’ve been like yourself look even waste stupid every time you argue with me. I mean seriously, you just played yourself so hard, look like an even bigger clown than you’ve already have shown me and everyone else. You must be that desperate to defend your ego. Yeah, I like saying “ego” because I like seeing the truth over and over. Just admit it this is an ego problem of yours, which is why you’re still arguing with me. If it wasn’t you wouldn’t still be arguing with me now would you?

Again, you’re using your own personal headcanon to justify your argument and I already pointed out all the holes in your argument and proved them wrong. You’re delusions of grandeur are so hilarious, I should send this to the Bayonetta Discord server. They are gonna get a kick out of you. They can debunked all your points in a heart beat. You’re such a sad clown, I’d hate to be you right now. Anyway, have fun living in your little fantasy of believing you’re right, cuz everyone else on this wiki is already calling out your BS. Must be sad being alone on this. I’m done for the night. So have a good night. 🤣🤡

You do realize, she called Luka “cheshire” again in Bayo 2, because she doesn’t take Luka seriously as a man and still thinks he was immature due to his stalking and being a pervert. She only called him “Luka” one time after he appears for the first time in the game and then went back to Cheshire throughout the rest cuz she was only messing with him when she called him his name. Cuz she doesn’t take him seriously. I mean, not even again within the rest of Bayonetta 2, does she ever call him “Luka”. It was only that one time.

Also she calls him a “little boy” when she and Loki poke fun at Luka’s incompetence and that alone nails it right on the head. She views him as an immature and arrogant baffoon.

Also Bayo 2 is a separate universe from Bayo 3. So that wasn’t even relevant to the discussion. I seriously don’t know why that was brought up.

Again, what you’re telling me is clearly your own personal interpretation. Bayonetta 3 makes no indication that she doesn’t know Cheshire. Again, Bayo 3 is Brave Cereza. She had the doll. And wasn’t thinking about Luka. There was no indication of that at all during that scene. You’re only using your personal head canon to make that benefit your narrative. I mean, you’re using one freakin scene with Luka and Viola to back it up? That’s not even close to sufficient enough to validate your claim.

She even said “Cheshire” like she remembers her doll and was wondering why Viola has it. It has NOTHING to do with Luka. Not a single moment in that scene implies it. And the dialogue of Viola meeting Luka doesn’t back up your argument at all. It’s not even a big or sufficient enough hint to validate your argument. Again, you’re using headcanon to interpret that scene. Seriously… GET OVER IT. YOU LOST THE ARGUEMENT. 🤦‍♂️😂

I have never met a person with such a big ego who can’t even admit defeat. Seriously, a real adult knows when to take the loss and move on. The games tell a different story than your interpretating. I mean, you seriously are a glutton for punishment and you’re getting debunked every freaking time. And what’s even worse is that you sound so triggered right now you’re only making yourself look more like an even bigger clown than you already have been. So thank you for that. You’re definitely going to be a big topic of discussion. Have fun living in your delusions of grandeur and stop lying to yourself pretending like you’re the competent one here.

Takes a dumb ass rock to know one so bold words, kid. 😂

keep living in your delusions of grandeur thinking that you know better than me. The games tell a much different story than what you claim. And your interpretation has already been proven false by numerous people on this site so you might as well stop pretending that you’re interpretation is fact cuz you were already debunked multiple times now. Care to make it more? I already got several other people discussing about your incompetence. Thanks for being a clown for us.

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Bruh, I paid attention to the plot, facts and details clearly more than you. Sorry, but Brave Cereza remembers Cheshire cuz THAT was her toy. Therefore, you are wrong based on that factor alone. She never called Luka “cheshire” in that timeline.

You’re still not proving that your argument has any validity. Therefore you are wasting your time. You’ve already been debunked and you’ve already been proven unreliable in your argument. Why do you continue being a glutton for punishment? You’re only making a fool out of yourself every time you argue back. Just accept the fact you’re wrong and move on already. You’re already looking more like a joke the more you continue making baseless arguments with me.

No she wasn’t. She never called him that in that timeline. Brave Cereza had no reason to call him Cheshire in this reality. She was thinking about her doll she had and her suspicions of Viola having it. She was trying to figure out who Viola is. I doubt Luka was on her mind when that happened. So stop trying misinterpret a scene to boost your narrative. Cuz it’s not working and you’ve been already proven wrong multiple times now. You have failed to substantiate your arguement one after another. Does your ego have no limits? Just accept your loss. Stop being a glutton for punishment. You have nothing to back up your arguement. Take the loss like a grown adult and move on.

He was recognized! 🤦‍♂️😂 There was no implication that she didn’t recognize the name. She was just perplexed that the Cheshire cat doll was alive and that Viola had the doll to begin with which raised her suspicion. Also Nintendo does know. They oversee the production and are given the information they are told. So yes, it’s credible. Stop pretending you know better cuz your ego is showing again. Stop trying to boost your narrative because you’re not making any valid arguments.

Stop letting your ego cloud your judgement. You are wrong. Take the defeat with dignity. Other people are calling out you BS on other comments as far as I have seen. So you are alone in this.

Yeah she is not brining any credibility to the table. She just likes to make up her own narrative rather than tell a more accurate and consistent one. She is now rambling on about it again jist now because of Bayonetta Origins. Check it out if you see it.

Actually if you pay attention, it is her. She is a bit older in this game than she was in B1. And she could have altered her Cheshire doll a bit. It IS Brave Cereza. Bayo 3 already made it obviously clear it is her. Just because you don’t personally believe it is doesn’t mean that you’re right. Just because there are small detail changes in some areas, doesn’t warrant your argument as valid. Especially, when you have no clue about the game since it was just announced.

People are already calling you out for your dumb claims, because it seems they have more common sense than you do. Again you’re just trying to boost your own narrative and you refuse to accept you’re wrong because your ego won’t let you. 😂😂😂

And this is where your argument falls flat, Kamiya hasn’t dismissed it. Nobody asked him, yet. But they don’t need to because the game blatantly confirms to you that the Bayo of Bayo 3 is Little Cereza all grown up. So why bother asking? They evidence is clear as day in the game. You’re only ignoring it cuz it doesn’t your narrative. Which is sad for you. And even if they ask him, you know he will never give a straight answer. The man gass-lights and trolls his fans and followers, with cryptic and vague answers.

Also I never cared about the BayoXJeanne thing. I never even supported the idea. I just go by what the games show. While Kamiya is a fan of it, I never really took it to heart.

Kamiya’s words are cryptic and vague. Which makes him unreliable for straight answers. Mari Shimazaki is proven more reliable because she elaborates more. Regardless, unless she or Kamiya give us a straight answer, as far as the third game is concerned, the story, character profiles and weapon profiles confirm to us that Bayonetta 1&2 are separate timelines (or realities) and Bayo 3 is Little Cereza all grown up. There are so many factors within the game that supports it more and none of your headcanon ideas support your argument nor outweigh what is shown in the game. And as far as I can see, nobody seems to take what you say seriously nor seem to be agreeing with you. You’ve ignored so many factors, it shows me that you’re only trying to make it support your own narrative rather than tell a more accurate and consistent one.

Apparently, you can’t read correctly.

The profile for both guns specifically states they were only made and used for different Bayonetta’s. Meaning Bayo 1 and Bayo 2. Yet Bayo 3 has never seen nor used then before. So guess what? You’re wrong. You’re not even making any compelling arguments, yet you continue to argue when the odds are against you.

Read both gun’s profiles in the game. They make it specifically and blatantly obvious that Bayonetta 1&2 are separate universes and individuals. And that the guns were only used and made for them. Implying Bayo 3 never used them before. There is more evidence in the games, than what you lead on. Sorry, but your headcanon is still debunked. You’re only making a fool out of yourself for even arguing without any facts to back it up. Until you can provide proof, you lost the argument. I’m done with your headcanon crap. You’re waisting my time with this.

Delmarco, Scarborough Fair and Love Is Blue’s in-game weapon profile states they were only used by different Bayonetta’s. Meaning they are not from this Bayonetta’s universe. That right here nails it right on the head. Bayonetta 1&2’s stories are separate realities. And Bayo 3, makes it blatantly obvious that the Bayonetta you play IS Little Cereza. It’s clear as day. Not even vague. So unless you can debunk the in-game’s info, neither of you guys can prove me wrong. I go by what is given in the games. Not by ya’lls personal headcanon. So if I were you guys, I’d save your breath. Cuz nothing you say will change what the game shows. You’re not debunking me without official and sufficient evidence.

Bayo 3’s in-game profile for Bayo 2 doesn’t state that she is the one from Remembrance Of Time: The End. That’s just a headcanon theory that a wiki admin made up. The in-game lore confirms Bayonetta 1&2 are separate universes. Bayonetta 3 is not the same reality nor the same Bayonetta. Play the game and see for yourself.

Umbrasourceress1380, you are merely speaking headcanon and have yet to provide sufficient evidence. You claim people can debunk the guy in the video, yet nobody has because no evidence there is no sufficient to do so. You’re headcanon has been debunked.

Bayo 1&2 are not variants. They are confirmed the exact Bayonetta’s from 1&2. And the gun’s profile’s confirm Scarborough Fair and Love Is Blue are for different Bayonetta’s in the multiverse and implies the Bayonetta of 3, has no knowledge of those games and just discovered them. So Bayonetta 1,2&3 are each separate realities. Bayo 3 is Little Cereza. Bayo 1 and Bayo 2 are different Bayonetta’s from different realities with similar past events. But Singularity wiped out Bayo 1 and 2’s reality long ago. So they didn’t progress any further until Cereza restored them and after the temporary fusion, they vanished back to their realities just like all the other variants did.

Even if Luka’s dad is alive, that doesn’t mean Cereza wouldn’t have met Luka through different circumstances. Bayonetta 3’s in game profiles and facts confirms my argument.

Unless you have sufficient evidence to support your claim, the game itself has more than enough proof that Bayonetta 1 and 2 are separate universes and that the ones that do show up are the ones from the first two games. And Singularity states he wiped them out long ago. Meaning their universes ended before they can continue. So Bayo 1’s story was over and Bayo 2’s as well. Because Singularity destroyed them before Brave Cereza restored them.

Again, Bayonetta is NOT the same Bayonetta from the first two games. The in-game profile’s make that very clear.

Dude, there is in-game evidence that debunks your argument. https://youtu.be/OGmlVAKeoCE