Talk:Rosa/@comment-25110963-20141123030238/@comment-1661895-20141201231521

I'll summarise this as best I can from my own observations based on scenes from both games to put is to rest.

1. Rosa states before she dies that she believes Bayonetta will 'inherit' both of the Eyes at some point in the future. Now, given that Bayonetta has a mixture of light and dark ancestry and the fact Balder is one of the Eyes as well as her parent, it's also plausible to assume that Rosa had the Left Eye before Bayonetta because of her dialogue. Rosa believed Bayonetta would obtain both of the Eyes once both she and Balder died, hence her instructions to Balder to keep their daughter safe until she was able to do so because Rosa knew she wouldn't last long ("Your face will be the last thing I see...").

The scene in Bayonetta 2 where Bayonetta discovers Rosa's body leads directly into the scene where Jeanne seals her away. The setup of this scene from both the camera angels, expressions on the characters etc implies that Jeanne realised what Bayonetta now posessed when they found Rosa dead (the Left Eye) and decided to hide her away from the approaching angelic forces as a last ditch attempt to save the clan. This is further backed up by the fact Bayonetta and Jeanne only appeared to be escaping their attackers upon entering the chamber at first and that Bayonetta is caught off guard by Jeanne's sudden stabbing, appearing shocked as to why her friend is doing it.

2. Jeanne's battle against Bayonetta in the first game was not to see whether she would obtain the Left Eye or not if she won. The entire fight is explained by the Elder herself as Jeanne simply having to prove that she has what it takes to ascend to the higher ranks of the Umbra because she is the heir of the clan. The Eye is never mentioned once in the scene, nor is Bayonetta implied to have it (she's only stated to not be allowed to participate because of 'impure blood').

In a way, Bayonetta 2 explains how Bayonetta was able to have the Left Eye in much clearer detail once you look into what Rosa says, the sequence of events leading up to her 500 year slumber and so forth. From what I've seen, I believe Rosa was the Left Eye until she died.