Talk:Masked Lumen/@comment-164802-20140912210701/@comment-1661895-20140912214338

Whilst I'm curious at the connection that lipstick has and how it's a little encouraging as to who he could actually be, I don't think this could be Balder.

In the first game when Balder is explaining his plan to Bayonetta and how things have reached this point, he specifically says that leading to the Festival Of Ressurection after the clan wars ended:

"I fanned the flames of terror, spurring on the Witch Hunts."

If this really was Balder and he was looking for whoever killed Rosa (his 'love'), this would be in direct contradiction with his own actions. He himself encouraged the persecution of the remaining Witches as part of his plan to rebirth the universe, which also implies he was only using Rosa as a means to obtain the Left Eye.

Another thing to point out is that lipstick now belongs to Bayonetta, not Rosa (she specifically refers to it as 'my lipstick' when Luka places it as bait during Chapter 5). I think the idea of him being moved through time is plausible since it's shown Bayonetta has the same thing happen to her during the course of the game, but I also don't think it would be Balder because of what happens in the footage of him we've seen in the game.

At the beginning of Bayonetta 2, even though he has survived the fall of Jubileus' statue head, Balder is suddenly seized and possibly stripped of some sort of power before collapsing and vanishing in a flurry of gold dust. Now compared to the Masked Lumen's method of transporting into the scene in that video, which seems to not have this same affect and also fits the overall look and power of his accomplice, it doesn't match.

Now I think the pair of them are related as they share the same eyepiece and overally colour scheme of silvery hair and such, but Kamiya must have a good reason to explain away what Balder said in the first game if it truly is him (as he's writing the story for Bayo 2 as well).