Talk:Eyes of the World/@comment-25110963-20150112073301/@comment-50.175.22.246-20150113150413

How can they exist in the first place? Both of them are gone from the world. Bayonetta and Jeanne are it of the Umbra. Besides, there's two different timelines now with Balder taking Loptr's essence back to the past which goes towards the first game. The first game and its events are still part of the main timeline. Its timeline ends when Loki erases the eyes. The clans still existed in both timelines, but the eyes only belonged to the first.