Talk:Masked Lumen/@comment-162.202.185.147-20140906190447/@comment-24572029-20140908171201

That was meeeeeeeee....well...i posted that somewhere lol.

(To the Grudge) The Lumen is in fact seemingly more interested in Loki than Bayonetta, and attacks Bayonetta because she is getting in his way.

To be honest we can't actually say he isnt being controlled in someway. He could of lost memories or such, but it seems that everything he has with Bayonetta  is what a old Lumen would be like to a typical Witch. That whole im good your bad thing.

Furthermore he says that Bayonetta will never be forgiven. Forgiven for what?? Helping Loki or somthing else? Since after he stresses that "He" well never be forgiven.

I for one think it can last. If the Lumen is her brother, father or whatever, i think it can last.

When the Umbras and Lumens ruled, i dont believe the world was full of angels like it is now. I think that the only times angels and demons were able to enter the world was through the clans power, like wicked weave. So i dont think killing angels was part of the initial contract since the clans were at peace. Oh thats another part, the clans coexisted and were at peace, though one ruled the night and the other the day don't forget that they came together to build structures like the golem and shared the same training grounds. Plus what we see with Balder and Rosa it is possible for them to not kill eachother.